Haim bassist Este Haim came by Going Off Track to discuss how she grew up listening to emo icons like Taking Back Sunday and Brand New. She also talks about her short-lived career as a waitress, the impact that Say Anything’s …Is A Real Boy had on her life and the merits of pop music. “The thing about pop music now that I love is that there are really no rules and it’s borrowing from so many different genres and eras,” she explains. “For me, the music I want to make has a pop sensibility—but I want it to sound classic but not dated.” We also discuss our mutual love of Don Henley and Phil Collins, why Haim didn’t rush into putting out their sophomore album and the time Este cried at a Dinosaur Jr. concert. Now that’s emo.